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Beyond the News: TV Violence | God loves all people.
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No sure what you mean by this:

"For the transexual people, be true to your spouse".

I have never been married, nor do I have a spouse.



Rikki
Logan, Qld Australia
7/10/2011 1:37:00 AM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | Communion
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Hi Ann,

Thanks for that. I feel that Melodie has given us both a satisfactory explaination about how communion works in my life.

Eric
Logan
5/15/2011 2:17:00 PM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | Communion Issues
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Ann,
Communion is to the communicant what it means to them. I do not care to be dogmatic about it.
I am just as happy to recieve communion where ever it is offered to me. It will still be to me what it is - a mystery and an opportunity for the Body of Christ to share in the one loaf in unity.We are the Body of Christ - HIS spirit is with us.
Yes, this is a forum - do try to accept divergent views - otherwise you may risk being labelled a bigot. That all from me on this topic.

Eric
Logan, Qld Australia
5/7/2011 11:25:00 PM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | Communion Issues
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Hi Ann,

I don't need to deal with the gross issues. If you want someone to deal with the 'gross' issues go ask a Catholic or a Lutheran.

Eric
Logan,
5/6/2011 5:42:00 AM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | Communion Issues
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I would have like to see the responses to this; I have the same question. How can you think communion is just symbolic? Look at all the foreshadowing of communion in the Bible: The Mana in the desert, Moses changing the Nile into blood, Jesus first miracle changing water used for sacraficial cleansing into wine, feeding the 5,000 and having the feeling of fulness they got from the bread being more impressive than the miracles they saw Jesus perform, and the blood of the lamb in a very real way saving the jews in the first passover. The essence of all of these miraculously becomes present in the bread and wine when they are consecrated and blessed before being shared.


glenview, il usa
5/4/2011 3:50:00 PM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | How to frustrate an earnest Chrisitian
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I reread what you had posted Ann and You DO seem to understand that I hold the view that there are some teachers/ theologians/ Pastors/priests who do want to control our minds in regards to the Bible,(sorry about that).
It would seem, based on what I am hearing and reading from these politcally inspired Mennonites and others, that unless we agree with them, they seem to be telling us that we are not genuine Chrisitians or not Chrisitian enough. It is true that we do need to inform ourselves about the Bible through research, so as to make an informed decision - but in the end it is OUR decision, not the decsion of some Pastor or Priest.
I would encourage people to challenge these sort of things, but it is unlikely they would be heard as these so called leaders of the church seem to be growing increasingly arrogant and self righteous in some cases. I have asked the provider of our theology course to review our reading material so that both conservative/ traditional, and progressive/liberal views are taught, side by side. Unless they do this I won't study theology again as it would just biased rubbish.

Eric

2/7/2011 2:41:00 AM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | How to frustrate an earnest Chrisitian
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Hi Ann,
Based on what I have read of the ante-nicene age, tradition came before scripture.I believe that scripture is God's teachings taken from the traditions taught by the Apostles, (as paul, said,"hold to the traditions we taught you"). Scripture taken on its own, lifts them from its cultural base. Luckily we now have Bible dictionaries that can help us overcome this. During the reformation when indiviauls were interpreting scriptures for themselves they took the scriptures literally. There were adults who took the teaching of, "unless you become like little children....", as meaning they had to play with toys and act like children, and they did so -in the market squares! So the Church clamped down on private interpretation. But they over reacted and killed people for it if they did not recant and confirm. Earlier, before the reformation some of the early church Fathers held the same belief as the Catholic church held during the reformation that because those in authority poitions wrote/ compiled the books that make up our scriptures, (whether under the Holy Spitit or not), that they, the church's theologians should be the only ones who should intrepret them. Added to the problem was the fact that most people could not read the latin which became the official language of the church in latter days.Anyway this attitude of the church leadership being the only ones who were allowed to interpret scripture was carried on in what was to become what we see as the Roman Catholic church. The only persecution of Chrisitians in regards to the Bible is that it could be not translated into the vernacular, (Tyndale died as one person who tried it), and private interpretation was not allowed. People, unless the church allowed it were not allowed to preach either, (people died for that as well, before the reformation). Many died trying to assume these rights. persecuting people because of this is something I don't believe in because, as the scriptures themselves said, the gospels were written so that we might believe. However I am of the opinion that the scriptures do not contain everything we need to know because this would negate the workings of the Holy Spirt. Are you saying then that only a Pasor or other ministers of religion/ theologians,(the controllers) should be the only ones who interpret scripture?
This would run counter to what the early anabaptists believed. They needed leadership and guidance but their leaders encouraged their members to read the scriptures for themselves which is something I support. We don't need Pastors and priests to tell us how the Holy Spirit is moving us as we read the scriptures. Theology is a human endeavour, it does not carry the authority of God.
I feel that you have misinterpreted my argument.
I am supporting private reading of the Bible, allowing one to be moved by the Holy Spirit.I am saying that a theologian has NO RIGHT to tell a Chrisitian what to believe unless that Chrisitian individual accepts the theologian's viewpoint. When theology is linked to politcs it makes no sense, as God does not authorise any theology therefore a theologian's viewpoints which have linked to his/ her politcs is suspect and should be treated with care.This is most important, otherwise we end up with Chrisitians dancing to the political tune of the theologian, which is what I am seeing a lot of, whether it is preached or not, (usually this politically linked theology appears in blogs or similiar). When theologians link their theology to politcs we end up with major problems with people being controlled, either subversively or openly by theological political viewpoint, (as happened in the reformation, resulting in blood shed - carried out by those who believed the politcally inspired theology)
In short, you seem to have come to the exact opposite conclusion of what I am trying to say.Also I am not Catholic, so I don't know why you push this issue.

Eric

2/7/2011 2:29:00 AM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | How to frustrate an earnest Chrisitian
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Part of my post went missing, so here is how my last post was suppose to start:
Hi Ann,
Having thought some more about your response to my previous post I would like to introduce this topic for discussion.
Should we listen to or follow the example of Pastors or other religious leaders when they can’t be trusted to allow a full and open discussion on matters important to all Christians?


Eric

2/6/2011 5:42:00 AM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | How to frustrate an earnest Chrisitian
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Yet another scathing attack from this Mennonite Pastor.
He gives people the option to post anonymously, which is fine until they contradict him. After this he apparently becomes obsessed with finding out who they, (even checking or remembering other websites to look for clues).
It would appear that, even by his own admission, he will only allow certain posts to appear on his blog.
It makes you wonder who else he has silence. Perhaps if he were more transparent and honest, people would have the courage to post in their own name knowing that their posts would appear.
To me this seems to be the work of a control freak where the whole truth of what has been or being discussed has become a causality in an ideological war.
What sort of church do we have when a so called pastor decides what information reaches his target audience? Also, who does he and his ‘disciples’ silence in the congregation where he worships?

This is part of what he sent me:

"Well then, since I get to decide how I use my time (after all, it ismy personal blog -- and I have the right to freely decide whatcomments get posted without obligation) you and anyone else observingthese exchanges should certainly be able to understand why I willcontinue to abide by what I sent you Monday at 4:10 pm:"

Eric
Logan, Australia
2/4/2011 4:14:00 PM
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I have been wondering how liberal professional academic theologians are viewing the turmoil in Egypt.
Are they so biased against Israel that they are hoping to see Israel’s peace with Egypt threatened or even destroyed?
Are they hoping, praying, and wishing for the instability or dissolution of Israel’s southern border?
Do they think the bloodshed in Egypt is the price to pay to ‘liberate’ Gaza?
If so, they have Egyptian blood on their hands and possibly the blood of Israeli children on their hands as well should the peace between Israel and Egypt be destroyed.
If this is what liberal theologians are hoping for, how can they call themselves peace makers?
Theology and bloodshed – nothing much has changed since Luther if this is what they are hoping for.



Eric
Logan, Qld Australia
2/2/2011 3:28:00 PM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | Out With the Old?
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The previous post should have read,''modern or early Christian''.

Eric

1/9/2011 8:22:00 PM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | my views
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Hi Ann,

My take on Christianity is that one never stops learning. My views change as I learn more about the faith. I have met some Christians who have been born and bred in a certain denominations and never leave them. On the other hand, I have met other Christians who are like herd animals and are constantly on the move, going from one denomination or congregation to another. After my move from the Catholic Church I fell into this category as I tried to squeeze myself into an Anabaptist mould that never really fitted me, though I do borrow from their ideas.
However, my nature does not allow me to toe the company line, (as one former Baptist preacher describes the Mennonites). Toeing the company line seems to be an obsession with ultra-conservative Anabaptists such as the Beachy Amish and others like them. This is THE major reason I stopped fellowshipping with the Beachy Amish, the Christian Brethren, the Roman Catholics, and in the past eighteen months, the Mennonites. My theology these days is quite fluid much like the way I imagine the Holy Spirit moves amongst the community of the faithful. What is an appropriate way of looking at things or doing things at one point in a person’s life (or congregation or denomination),changes as need and maturity allows or dictates. I believe this is the way the Church has grew and continues to grow, and as theology changes, and as the years roll on. My way of seeing the faith can be summed up as, ‘’ as conservative as I want to be and as progressive as I need to be’’.
It is impossible for anyone to pin me down to any particular theology because I refuse to become a stinking stagnant pool of theology that never changes. My loyalty is to Christ and His Kingdom, and in particular and consequently the congregation in which I worship and receive communion, not some petty theologian, preacher, or some money making School of theology. I prefer congregations that do Jesus ‘teachings, not the ones who think they know all about Jesus and theology. It is about time the professional theologian academics started to listen to the Church which is inspired by the Holy Spirit, instead of the Church lapping up everything they vomit out into our pews.
As for theology, the way I see it, much of the progressive theology I come across and study is about forty years old and has not changed much since the activists 1970s. Unfortunately this same theology is still being taught, (read flogged) by some (fossil) theologians lecturers who do not seem to have not moved on since their activist 70’s mentality was developed. The consequences, as I see it, is that this 1970s theology is still being perpetuated by schools of theology in the current crop of students, that is if their sermons are anything to go by, (like so many sausages being churned out by a meat grinder). Also, I often find that many progressive/ liberal theologians and their bias and devoted followers are reluctant to even acknowledge a conservative viewpoint, giving them an appearance of an arrogant academic elite. As far conservative theologians are concerned, it seems to me, having listen to their endless sermons, as though many of them have not moved on since the late 1800s – early 1900s and they have simply added concepts of peace and justice to their sermons, (sometimes). Basically it seems to me that theology has become an expensive industry, (which we ordinary pew warmers seem to foot the bill for), which follows the trends (or political correctness) of society in any given generation. In short, modern theology seems to be influenced by the world, rather than being influenced by the Holy Spirit acting on the Church, keeping in mind all that Christ has taught us through His Word.


Eric
Logan, Qld Australia
11/4/2010 1:38:00 AM
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Ann, I said that I was reared in the Christian brethren, a totally different group to the mennonites.

Eric

10/15/2010 7:24:00 PM
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Hi Eric
I read with humour you self aruguments concerning who is an Anabaptist amist the differing points of view concerning captital punishment and peace protests.
If I may put my two cents in and please friends it is a personal view which may offend some. If you feel offended, ask yourself why? Are you offended from a biblical or worldly stance? No doubt an honest self take will reveal a worldly belief fueling your objection.

Ok, first off Anabaptism believes in a seperation of church and state. What the state does or does not do, is no concern of the church. If the state wishes to impose the death penalty, so be it. For Anabaptists to join protests marches against the state is not a godly action but demonic. God has blessed the duly elected government officials and to protest against them is to, in effect, to protest against God's will.
Such an action is not Christian let alone Anabaptist. We are to submit to the government and be loyal so long as their rules do not infringe on our right to worship God. How does the governments desire to execute people infringe on our right to worship?
Should the government pass rules that infringe on our right to worship as Anabaptist, then we shall ignore those rules and happily die for it.
But rules not concerning the church, are just that, not a church concern.It is sad to see Anabaptists involved in worldly politics that they have no business being involved in.
Put that energy into saving souls from eternal damnation and not be distracted by satan into trying to save bodies from a few physical discomforts. Do not be concerned with that which destroys the body and not the soul, rather be concerned with that which destroys the soul.

Next point as to which Anabaptist view on topics is to be believed, we should first determine which Anabaptist groups are Christian and which are not.
A Christian can be identified as someone who is obedient to the word of God as found in the Bible.
If a person is in disobedience to scripture how can they call themselves a Christian let alone an Anabaptist.
Most Christians who are in disobedience and yet identify themselves as Christians will defend their disobedience, not by using the Bible, but by the words of false teachers. When they try to prove their point, ask them to show you verse and chapter that supports what they claim.
They can't. All they cam mumble is legalism, custom, historical predudice etc. to justify ignoring God's holy word. But written evidence in black and white in the Bible to substanciate their disobedience, never.
What am I talking about, churches that have women pastors, allow men or women to dress immodestly, (shorts on men and pants on women), churches where women do not cover their heads for prayer yet men strangely do, churches where members wear jewellery or make up, churches that allow divorce and remarriage, churches that teach evolution openly or in gap theory or old earth disguise, are from a biblical point of view not Christian and therefore certainly not eligiable to be Anabaptist.
So whatever they have to say should be discarded. When you look at what remains, should it be from a Conservative Mennonite, Old Colony Mennonite, Amish, Hutterite, Old Order Mennonite, Old Order German Baptist Brethren etc. point of view, you will not find much difference or deviation in agreement on biblical issues.

Individuals have many conflicting points of view, the Bible has only one point of view, God's point of view. If all practice 'not my will but Your will be done' we too shall all have the same point of view.

God did not stop to ask our opinion before He wrote the Bible, any more than He stopped to ask Job for his. As God told Job, 'where were you when I laid the foundations of the world?' God gave His opinion, it is ours to be obedient and obey, not question and change.

If there is a conflict in oppinions on Bible matters it is because satan is stirring the pot. Tread with extra care in such times and follow only that what is written so that you should not be deceived by the evil one.

Keep up the good work Eric, may the Aussie community grow from strength to strength and serve our Lord diligently in all His ways.

God Bless
Daryl






Edenvale,
7/1/2010 11:37:00 AM
Beyond the News: TV Violence | Beliefs
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Hello again Dale - another website for Doctrines/ beliefs/ writings in regards to conservative anabaptist beliefs can also be had at http://www.anabaptists.org/

All the best

Eric

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